The pictures at left illustrate some of the forging marks. First debuted in November 1895 as the .303 calibre, Rifle, Magazine, Lee-Enfield, the rifle has still found use today in military, sporting and ceremonial roles - over one hundred years since its inception in its original form. AA was webbing. BSA from 1943 to 1945 was receiving fore wood and buttstock sets from Sykes Limited in walnut - these were marked S.L. Prior to their creation a variety of WWI sniper rifles were in use. It is found on early rifles that saw full service (1941 Maltby - un-peened pad screws evident), It is on unissued "scopeless" rifles from 1944 and on later "scopeless" and service experienced 1945 rifles. Nearly 5 million spike bayonets were reported produced. 4Mk. The following maker marks are pictured at left: This scabbard is pictured on page 133 of Graham Priests book, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century. According to the author, the example in my collection is still the only brass-throated scabbard reported. History, development, service, specifications, pictures and 3D model. VIEWS. 4Mk. It was published in 2007, available now from Aust., N.Z., US and UK distributors. Wartime guns all had letter prefixes, but each. 0000000016 00000 n 0000002978 00000 n Thanks to inter-war development, an improved and simplified design was waiting in the wings, and the No. The stock was made by . Nice rifle regardless That was my original though, I know I wont get a 100g% sure answer I'm just looking for most likely. Weight unloaded is Nine pounds even (I weighed it!) 4 spike bayonets used by Turkey. I rifle, the No. Information on the scope as well would be appreicated. II* bayonets from 19421945. Photo to follow, when I can work out how to post one. Most of the parts are interchangeable, the only major difference is usually the factory marking, if it is present. With the exception of Russia, socket bayonets had long gone out of fashion in modern armies. You are using an out of date browser. Here are 2 genuine early, It has been observed that only on No4T rifles, there can be found an, In the expert write ups, there is reference to the H&H contract use of an, Get email offers & the latest news from ArtioZen. Milled micrometer iron sight. Upon firing the wood instantly fractured and burns resulted, and although serious injury was possible, the owner was lucky this time. The rifle's two-piece stock and 10-round magazine are two of its most distinctive features. 4 bayonet evolved (or devolved), with each generation becoming more crude and cheaper to manufacture. I was recently asked to demo how to attach the web sling and its cousin the 1907 leather sling to an No4T for use in the field or range. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a British viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Prince-Smith examples. The swivel was to be "low turret" in design so that the sling body would be stopped by the existing magazine loop - this allowed the sling to be "locked" in a diagonal exit path off the fore end at an ideal angle to wrap the bicep and provide sling position options for better steadying in all positions. 0000013109 00000 n This is not to say that Enfield serial numbers provide no information or that they are not an interesting subject. So if you have a genuine Maltby T - it was converted in 1941 and a little into 1942 at H&H while stocks lasted - typically Maltby "Ts" are nearly always 1941 dated - a 1942 example that is genuine has yet to be documented. Places that will have the serial information is on the bolt, receiver and normally the barrel. An average example runs about $375 in very good condition at the time of this writing. We set ourselves apart by supplying unique parts at a good value and standing by our products by offering outstanding customer service. Serial Numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification, Serial Number and Manufacturer Information Locations. It retains the 10 round box detachable magazine, however the largest change to the rifle was the addition of a rear aperture sight. Note that not all FTR rifle were converted. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:45, Post 4Mk. 4Mk. Up Next we have a Lend-Lease Agreement Lee Enfield No.4 MK1 Rifle Chambered in .303 Brit, And this Rifle is in Excell. In 1943, Prince-Smith was assigned the dispersal code N56. The used value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($61.94) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $563.89 . identification lists detailing by illustration, descriptive part name and part number, all parts of the Rifle, .303 Calibre, Lee Enfield, No 4, Mk 1 * and its associated equipment. Bayonet The item on the left has been rebuilt, but features other components marked "SM" for consistency. 1 Mk III or III*, with the original MLE and LEC becoming obsolete along with the earlier SMLE models. I sniper variants. Your serial No. 1* imported by Century International Arms. Armourers would not make a buttstock with S51 for spare parts. Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers. These war time sling swivels were made by Hollands and are typically browned steel. Plastic Mk. PS over K inside a circle (pictured at left) No5 rifles (Jungle Carbines) serial numbers consisted of a sequential 4 digit number starting with 0001 running through to 9999, the numbers were preceded by a letter prefix. . I scabbards were made in the USA. All of the numbers on the metal (except the magazine) are matching. 4 socket bayonets produced. I read that BO would indicate early 1944. No4 mk1 is stamped on the side of the reciever. I bayonet was a throwback. 0000007555 00000 n Feedback from the initial service performance at the front (often from prior experienced target shooters) indicated that longer slings with a central mount at the front of the magazine would be preferred. Seen in the picture above are the places where the serial number and manufacturer can be found. The Savage-Stevens Co. of Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts, made approximately 1.25million No. examples with "E", "F" and "S" marks in a bright blued finish (often with a triangle that is a little too tight for the leather 1907 sling). The only maker was the Singer Manufacturing Co. (the famous sewing machine people), at their Clydebank, Scotland plant. UKSkennerton's Arms and Militaria Press. Canadian Arsenals produced a run of approximately 5,000 No. 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. N30 (pictured at left) Four scabbard designs saw significant use with the No. Three firms produced the No. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force). Very good 5 groove barrel. Welcome to the forum. During the war, the No. The remnants of the wartime marking are lined through and the new marking applied above. II* bayonets. On the right the M47C, date and TR are as they should be - all else is modified, retouched or swapped out The No. Piece of cake rebarreling the old No4. Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information Buy Now Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. Post II* (pronounced: number four, mark two, star) was a further simplified version, with the socket and blade two separate forgings. (2) Canadian No. 2. II bayonets from 19421944. Singer and other producers (Savage has been observed). by Steve Hoog 22 Mar 2012, 20:21, Post 0000004885 00000 n Firing mechanism is Enfield pull cocker type, with left side serrated safety lever. The last picture illustrates an unusual mark, occasionally found on No. On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps under the blackened surface - except the serial which may be a light stamp or a very precise electro-pencil. Other Components - By studying the few untouched (scopeless) No4Ts we can see which other No4T components came from other supplies to the BSA factory from 1941 to 1945. Once the initial range of numbers was maxed out a letter prefix was added and the numbering began again. Apr 25, 2010 #2 Threeband The M1 Does My Talking The British Army had adopted the Rifle, No. For the rifles produced in North America, American black walnut was consistently used, with birch used as a substitute when walnut was not available. "AM/712" indicates procurement via an Air Ministry (RAF) contract. III sniper rifle and Enfield No. J'aime Je n'aime pas : Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 : Page 1 sur 1: Sujets similaires. I scabbard may have been made in the USA, given the lack of any maker's or proof marks. 1 Mk. 4Mk. H&B Genuine early, When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) All matching numbers. The 2ndNZEF fought in the North African and European Theatres as part of the British 8th Army. " gh" over "1 9 h". I believe the number " 1 xxxx" means it was manufactured at Maltby. Along with parts replacement and service programs. The No. The No4 Mk1 (T) rifles are pretty easy to verify as they were marked clearly on the wrist band, action and scope mounts. 4Mk. No. The very first Maltbys and BSA's produced their own and used the associated early marks for each (large B for BSA, stylized M for Maltby). $8.69 shipping. Forging subcontractor marks tend to be very deeply struck. Socket: "No. 4 Mk. Dispersal Codes begin with a letter denoting the general location (N=north, M=middle, and S= south), followed by up to three digits. Carries the electropenciled New Zealand property marking and serial number. The left side receiver wall has the "angled transition" (just below the ejector screw) which is a Savage (rather than British-made) feature, so its one or the other of the New World manufacturers, but I don't know if Long Brach also did the same thing? Also, the Tape Hunt makes a return. 4 Mk 1* (T) rifle in .303 British made by Savage in 1942. They remained in use with select weapon platforms - the P14T / No3T as its name was changed) through to WW2. 4 Mk. II* bayonets have been observed with an arrow over "D" marking on the front of the socket. What makes this particular Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.2 an 'obscure' object of desire: it's in abso-fricking-lutely 100% condition. British Armourers would change the butt stock out for damage and sniper preference reasons - so true rifles often have different butt stock features other than the presence of a cheek piece - in the cold war era they were allegedly ordered to add all missing marks. 3. by verdenpark 26 Mar 2012, 07:11, Post I and some Prince-Smith examples exhibiting rough tool marks. 0000000756 00000 n The last picture shows an unusual Prince-Smith mark comprised of a large "56" on the socket face. The bayonet and socket were one solid forging. (125mm.) Hollands also wrote the serial number of the rifle in pencil on the inside of the barrel channel on wooden fore end sections - just the serial number and not the letters have been observed. This also disbursed production, mitigating the risk of production being interrupted by bombing. These specific letter prefixes were assigned to ROF Fazakerley and BSA Shirley, the only two manufacturers of the No5 rifle, this ensured that there would be no duplicate serials during the production run of No5s. Method: 1 I will continue to add additional variants as I acquire additional pieces. 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The finish varies considerably between manufacturers, with Baird bayonets approaching the excellent finish of the No. 4Mk. :Mr`X cV7AB.D~|rU`z .O l/|~ ; 7{ The Indians did us no favors scrubbing & remarking as they did. The No. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. The No. The number actually produced is believed to be 250,000. 4 (T) 303 BRITISH SNIPER RIFLE 1944 . It is a bolt action repeating rifle with a 10 round box magazine and free floating barrel, and is chambered for the venerable Mk.VII ammunition in .303 caliber. Other than the war time Hollands originals, some of these commercial sling swivels have been retrofitted onto Npo4Ts - probably in private hands. Rear Sights are flip-up adjustable aperature micrometer sights, not vertical leaf. British infantry rifle Lee -Enfield No.4 Mark 1 of WW2. 0000002950 00000 n Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. 1* is functionally the same as the Mk.1, but various changes were made in the design to make the manufacturing process faster. The No. Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century, British No. For official references, usually the finished and issued rifle was tracked by its rack number and of course these records have long since been destroyed or lost forever. This indicates the length of the bolt head with the larger numbers being the longer bolt heads. Other Nations Service and Replacement - Differing Nations have taken equipment from Great Britain and her colonies over the decades for frontline, secondary and domestic / internal service - Such as Italy and Holland immediately after WW2 - Israel and South Africa in the 1950s and 1960s India and Pakistan have kept their Lee Enfield's up and in reserve until a few years ago. %%EOF <]>> he! My thought is its a Savage No4 Mk1* lend lease made in 1942, It has the ( S ) markings and machine marks, The receiver, barrel, bolt, magazine and stock all have the same Indian furbished serial numbers and the savage markings. Since the overall length is 46", it will fit many other rifles. . The factory eventually went on to produce cylinder heads for Davey-Paxman landing craft engines. . 4 Mark I* was the primary rifle of the British and Canadian armed forces during WWII, and it served well into the 1950s. The significance of this mark is not known. They may or may not have the serial stamped into the front part of the fore-end and in the case of the Australian Lithgows it may be stamped into the butt as well. by verdenpark 30 Mar 2012, 08:34, Post 4 Mk. Some SMLEs may be found with as little as a 3 digit number and high as a 5 digit number. A redesign of the Lee-Metford (adopted by the British Army in 1888), the Lee-Enfield superseded the earlier . APEX Gun Parts is your source for hard to find gun parts, parts kits, and accessories. He also indicated that P.S.S. This is my first personal Enfield and second in my family. The sling worked well enough in dry / sunny climates like Africa and Italy, but in the UK training camps and northern Europe they were found to be "slippy" to use and needing lots of preservative (Dubbin) to survive the wet conditions. #6. These are now hard to find in any condition, but this example is near pristine. This example was reworked post-War following the change from Roman to Arabic numbering. British Lee-Enfield No4 Mk2 knife bayonet, scabbard and frog Dated 1949 P (RSAF Poole) 95.00. That looks like an interesting rifle. The British No. In the expert write ups, there is reference to the H&H contract use of an "S" on the would-be "single round cut off" mounting ear section of the right receiver wall. This PSK No. Truth be known about Enfield serial numbers is simply, the serial number was used more for production counting than any other reason. 4Mk. Manufacturers will be noted either on the left side of the receiver or on the left side buttsocket. 5 carbines have ONLY four digit serial numbers. 4Mk. 5 Mk 1, unofficially nicknamed "Jungle Carbine.". These were originated for the No4 rifle design by Singer Machine Co, hence they are often referred to as a "singer sight". (45mm.) One of the recent Pakistani surplus releases featured a range of No4T and their replacement parts - now circulating in European, Australian and USA markets. A specific chapter in the new 'Lee-Enfield Rifles' update of the 1992 'Lee-Enfield Story' is devoted to Serial Numbers. If you are slightly less lucky you may have a rifle, scope and accessories that have been used and "improved" by private owners and tinkerers, Here is how to spot original features, errant ones and simple techniques to step towards your chosen rifle impression - original factory - war years service - post war British service and post war International service - organized by parts group: Wrist markings: I was talking with a fellow enthusiast about BSA Shirley using electro-penciled serial numbers in production and so took some photos to explore this: Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1945 No4T on the left and an "active service" No4T on the right that had its last service with India, other than the metal being painted with lumpy glossy black paint it is predominantly unchanged, On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps through the blackened surface. This article, "Exploded View: Lee-Enfield No. VNS mark represents "Viners Ltd. Sheffield, England" a subcontractor of Enfield parts. (pictured at left) Home / Firearm Parts and Accessories / Rifle Parts / Lee Enfield #4 MK1. It was thought that these may have been used by Australian units serving alongside the British Army, however, Australian issue of these bayonets has not been confirmed. II bayonets during the Korean War. 7B/1005/21/103/1147 4Mk. 2" over "Bg" over Crown-JF proofmark over "5171". $6.50 + $5.05 shipping. It is essentially an updated N0. The scabbard is a Mk. The period of manufacture is believed to be late-1940s or early-1950s. This example has a much finer finish on the socket than other No. 2. They have a high standard of fit and finish, feel solid and robust and are a joy at the rifle range, where, due to a magic thing near exclusive to Enfields called Positive Compensation, 1000 yard accuracy can . I don't see any other markings, but the paint is quite heavy, so there . When the No4T was conceived the cheek piece was transferred / continued. . The beechwood furniture is smooth, bright and unblemished. These rifles can often be identified by the stacking hook welded to the upper band. $799.00 . The rear aperture is calibrated for 300 meters and flips up to become a ladder sight or another aperture sight calibrated for 600 meters depending on the model. The other makers were much less prolific. Here is a Savage T format sight - with a 'squared S" on all 4 major parts as above: Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. xb```b``^X,{%NIt#@4qz6lR9A!}klL61M?&`8p8feD'J 5'J1i&u K08|uN1+|^ T 5O.8,uM^rJV`[X;%!..@ ;~]m2G%Ey,' XtnxQc9!Lm1_h Many Baird examples have a crowned IG mark on the socket. !o, I am hoping to get some help confirming or disproving my theory about this 1963 Indian furbished Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* I bought a few days ago. A quantity of No. Adopted by the British Army in 1939 the No.4 came into full production during the height of World War 2. So BSA Shirley, that produced the No4 rifles was designated "M47C" (Midlands region, sequential supplier no 47, factory C). (120mm.) Savage marked their bayonets with the letter "S". 4 Mk. & S. Ltd." = Fred Fisher & Sons Ltd. "JW (S) Ltd." = John Wilson Ltd., Sheffield, "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" = Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. 0000013061 00000 n Our Price: 295.00: Gunner Points: 29: Stock Info: 1 In Stock: Parker Hale 8/53 Lee Enfield No4 rear sight (PH1) . Magazine is 10 round factory issue, 10+1 rounds . endstream endobj 770 0 obj<> endobj 771 0 obj<> endobj 773 0 obj<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/ExtGState<>>>>> endobj 774 0 obj[775 0 R 776 0 R] endobj 775 0 obj<> endobj 776 0 obj<> endobj 777 0 obj<> endobj 778 0 obj<> endobj 779 0 obj<> endobj 780 0 obj/DeviceGray endobj 781 0 obj<> endobj 782 0 obj<>stream Where did the replacement Micrometer sights come from? Helve: "M.H.B." Springfield Model 1795 Type IV Musket with State of New York Markings, US$1,600. The U.S.M5 scabbard was made by Beckwith Manufacturing Co. of Dover, New Hampshire. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:33, Post Only 75,000 of this type were made. Based on serial numbers observed, approximately 35,000 No. 1.5 - Added 200% more memes for all my Brazilian fans. The entrenching tool was made by William Hunt & Sons, The Brades Ltd., Brades Steel Works, Oldbury, near Birmingham. The Indian plant stamped their own serial number into the top of the receiver. Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 Serial Numbers. %PDF-1.4 % Method III 4 spike bayonet. They would apply this mark to th butt heel - running along the axis of the rifle - red with the muzzle on the left.

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