just what you think) I hope he became a writer or something but I think he'd become a soldier, to WebWhat happens if you don't help Mary in RDR2? In 1907, Jack is a young teenager. Additional info During their ride back home, John expresses disappointment in his son's actions, while Jack argued at his father's sparse involvement in his life. It is classed as a Stranger side-mission due to the "?" After fourteen years of being an outlaw in the Van der Linde gang, Marston was shot and almost killed during a train robbery in 1899, where Dutch and the gang left him to die. Thats why its surprising that the game simply glosses over Abigails death when it moves on to the epilogue. A picture of the three Marston family members in Red Dead Redemption 2 (c. 1899): John, Abigail, and their son Jack. After John untied them both, the Marston family embraces. And cars should be strategic. Of course that would completely take the franchise away from the whole cowboy/western genre that it is literally centered around and make it a more COD/battlefield game. I think hed be an outlaw, to be honest - I cant see what else he would do and work for bounty hunters would be getting increasingly scarce to the point it would soon disappear as a career (this is 1914 now, not really the Wild West anymore). I get the feeling that if we see more of jack in the next red dead, were going to see him in WW1 France. Yes and the book in GTA V suggests he was a decent writer and he was interested in books so I find it likely. Either way, the company has boxed itself into a chronological corner,as the Wild West was effectively dead by 1914, with many key characters already gone, perhaps making its best option to recall the founding of the Van der Linde gang or else focus on an entirely new crew ofgunslingers. As the child of John and Abigail, Jack lived his early years around the various members of the Van der Linde gang such as Bill Williamson, Javier Escuella, Hosea Matthews, Arthur Morgan, Uncle, and even Dutch van der Linde, among others. Jack also had one sister. His parents, John and Abigail, were both members of Dutch's Gang. It's not that the second game wasn't successful,far from it. Alexandra is a freelance writer based in Montreal. Jack confronts the retired agent about his part in John's death, but Ross simply dismisses John's actions as his own fault. Simply being in close quarters with someone would be enough to contract a fatal disease such as tuberculosis, a common death sentence for the time. not at all were here to turn you into a soldier.. "You fuckers killed my pa!" Jack and Abigail standing next to John's grave. He wears a beige jacket, a white button-up shirt with a red neckerchief, and dark, dirty pants. If the player uses a high powered weapon in the duel, Ross may be sent flying back into the river, causing his body to become impossible to loot unless the player pushes it out of the water by slowly walking into it. Yeah he probably wouldn't willingly go to war, but I know in 1916 they brang out a law that said men 18 to 41 had to fight in WW1 unless they were physically injured. Understanding that the wolves attack the cattle, Jack and John ride after the pack of wolves, and gun down the some of wolves, and manage to scare the rest of them. WebI know it's mostly implied that Jack became an outlaw after killing Ross. Jack looks down at his handgun, understanding that while he avenged his family by killing the man who destroyed them, Jack is close to become an outlaw, the very life his father didn't want for him, and tried to avoid it in every way. I figure once he was done killing the guys he needed to he was probably done with it. https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CI_ain%E2%80%99t_goin%E2%80%99_nowhere_old_man!%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:E_D_G_A_R_R_O_S_S.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CI%E2%80%99m_sure_your_husband_will_be_just_fine%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CYou_knew_my_father%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CYou_shot_him_like_a_dog!%E2%80%9D.ogg. Jack was a bright young man who spent most of his time reading different books that further expand his knowledge. Not everyone he helped would be caught up, it's unreasonable to think that. He wouldve been the prime age they were looking for when the selective service act was enacted. 1907- Jack is now a young teenager. She explains that Edgar went with his brother on a duck-hunting trip in Nuevo Paraso. Horses can obviously traverse terrain easily, fast bunch need breaks and food. But if we are thinking about this from a "positive" perspective, Jack probably got himself a woman and is a famous author or some cheesy happy ending stuff along those lines. His fate after John's death and return as undead are unknown, and he can't be found anywhere. Were jack decides to put his life on the western front, The first world war has come to a close, also with Jack's military service ending with being able to return back to the United States. Unfortunately, I think somewhat of the same outcome. Depending on if you play the side missions as Jack or John, Jack spends a good time after that helping people around the Wild West and Mexico. Arthur sacrificed himself so John and his family could have a better life and in the end it was for nothing. John left the gang along with Abigail and Jack, moving them to a ranch on Beecher's Hope to try and start over as ranchers and give Jack a better life in 1907, thanks to Arthur Morgan for his sacrifices. I think Jack used his interest in literature to become a writer, using Arthur/Johns journal, and embellished them with campfire stories Uncle used to tell Jack. Some thought he died in the Great War, others thought he perished due to the cholera outbreak that would be Blackwater Jack would have no idea where either of them are or even whether they're alive, plus he doesn't know them that well. He was the only true innocent caught up in all that mess. Ending credits While helping strangers Jack will often lament that he has nothing to live for. Wasnt there a book he wrote in GTA 5 somewhere? Considering she wouldve needed a new way to support herself and Jack, Abigail may have gone back to her old ways after Johns death. With jack heading to California to settle down and become a famous arthur. He was really anti-social, and awkward whenever he had to involve himself. He is about a head shorter than his parents. Jack finds and confronts Ross, who shows no remorse for betraying John three years ago, and even threatening that to kill Jack if the latter will stay in the place. 1899 Either way, unfortunately, the true cause of Abigails death will remain a mystery thanks to the reluctance of the Red Dead Redemption games to name a definite reason. They had returned to West Elizabeth in 1907 and were notably stationed at Pronghorn Ranch for a time, where Abigail and Jack temporarily left John after the former was unsatisfied with Johns actions. In 1911, Jack and his family, were kidnapped by federal agent Edgar Ross, who ordered John to kill his former brother-in-arms. From Sawicki, Jack learns that Ross was rewarded for killing John, and is now living his days out in a cabin on Lake Don Julio with his wife. John eventually succeeds in this task and reunites with his family at the ranch. Sometime after helping both Abigail and Uncle, John takes time with teaching Jack hunting and skinning. After John complete the tasks, the agents release John, Jack, Abigail, and Uncle, and the four live as a family again. Also im pretty late to the party, just finished Red dead redemption. Will there be a Red Dead 3? I think realistically the best choice is to keep going backwards, show us the gang young, and we can see characters like Davey, learn about Hosea's relationship (I can't remember her name) and Arthur's time with Mary. It's simply that flagship Rockstarprojects now take many years to develop, and the company is simultaneously runningRed Dead Online, meaning that an announcement could still be years away. Jack Marston (1915) After a year, Jack heads back to Beechers Hope. The game assumes that players will easily accept Abigail died of unknown causes, but it, unfortunately, lost a good opportunity to expand on the circumstances leading up to this characters death. After scaring off the wolves, John asks Jack to stay out trouble. The game has been out for a year, but a potential spoiler warning, to any that havent played it yet. It is possible to exact revenge on Ross' family as well, by killing his wife and brother. In 1911, John is forced to take up the role of gunslinger once again when Edgar Ross and Archer Fordham find him at his ranch and force him to hunt down and capture or kill his former gang members by capturing his son and wife. Jack got his revenge. In fact, there's no immediate pressure to do this, and the game will gladly let players roam the towns and countryside as if they were simply replacing John. He wears a dark grey vest, a blue and white vertically striped shirt, and brown pants. Arthur says goodbye to Jack, telling the young boy to "be brave". Jack Marstonmission strand:"The Last EnemyThat Shall Be Destroyed" Jack and Abigail sit at the living room waiting for John to return. During the time from the death of John, until he began his revenge quest, Jack changed much of his appearance and behavior; he shaped his hair to be similar to his father's haircut, wore a white jacket and his father's hat, as well falling to depression and becoming rather aggressive. Jack grew up amongst the gang, oftentimes referring to Dutch, Bill, Hosea and Arthur as his uncles. Now a nineteen-year-old gunslinger and the spitting image of his father with similar skill in combat, Jack decides to hunt down his father's killer in revenge. What would he do when he found them anyway? The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jack's final age at just 19. From there he embraces his outlaw past from his father and uncle, Arthur and john while also embracing a John Dillinger personality. In 1899, Jack is living with the gang and is taken care of by its members, although he spends most of his time with his mother, Abigail. Though her husband John Marston dies at the end of the originalRed Dead Redemption, Abigail and their son Jack manage to escape the Pinkertons and government forces, leading players to believe that both of them are safe momentarily. Died in 1881. When you take over Jack, it's all about avenging his father john, look on the map in new Austin, not mexico, and you'll be sent on a mission to track down the Jack refuses to back down which results in a duel between the two, where Edgar Ross is gunned down. Because as @Jannes8492 said everyone he knew were dead or gone and it was very hard for him and had a very bad effect on him, too. He, along with his mother, Abigail, and family friend, Uncle, are kidnapped by federal agents, who force John to hunt down his former brothers-in-arms. Most of Jack's other actions during that time period is unknown. Before being hogtied, Jack chases Rufus but fails to catch him. Jack is on par with his father in terms of abilities and skills. WebWhat do you think happens to Jack after Rdr1 (Not based on easter eggs. Born into a gang of criminals, Jack's upbringing was that the gang was family to him and he called most of them his aunts and uncles. The Shelby brothers from peaky blinders fought and Im sure they hated the government. After taking Abigail from the house, and the three head for the barn, where John gets Jack and Abigail on a horse. The family also brought a dog called Rufus, who Jack took a liking to. Before this Stranger will appear on the world map, the player must complete: After speaking with Howard Sawicki, the player must: The mission starts when the player talks to Agent Howard Sawicki in Blackwater, indicated by the "'?" Jack heads to Blackwater, where he meets an agent called Howard Sawicki on the train station in the town. I also like to think that he fought in the Great war in 1918 because he is pretty young and by that year he would be 23. However, the Bureau secretly betray John and a large group of US Army soldiers attack the ranch at some point afterwards. Its pretty sad, everything happened so fast and before he knew it he was all alone. 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He would also have a younger sister, who died at some point before 1911. He saw the gang as his uncles and aunts, who watched over his growth and shielded his innocence from their more nefarious actions. Besides killing Edgar Ross he never commits any crimes that are cannon. John and Abigail had two children together, a son, Jack Marston (born in 1895), and a daughter, whose date of birth and death are unknown. Red Dead Redemption is a Western-themed action-adventure game played from a third-person perspective.The player controls John Marston and completes missionslinear scenarios with set objectivesto progress through the story; in the game's epilogue, the player controls John's son Jack. This led Jack to feel insecure and frightful whenever his father approached him and made him all the more desperate to prove his worth to both his father and himself. Etc. as jack is sitting on his porch, he notices 4 armed officers approaching down his drive. Little Jack deserves better. In 1996 Jack eventually died of heart disease Though her husband John Marston dies at the end of the original Red Dead Redemption, Abigail and their son Jack manage to escape the Pinkertons and When played with low Honor, Jack is the only character in the. If the player attempts to target the gun or arm of the target (normally a disabling shot), the duel will be lost (the bar will simply not fill when targeting his hands; this happens in other important duels also). He explains that ever since his ancestors left the Black Sea, his family has been travelers and explorers. Red Dead Redemption 2 gives players a criticala piece of information, despite being a prequel whichconcentrates on an associate of John's in theVan der Linde gang, Arthur Morgan. I know it's mostly implied that Jack became an outlaw after killing Ross. The cabin that the Ross family lives in is the same cabin. The two go on a hunting trip with Rufus and take down a pair of elk. Down the riverbank, following Philip's indications, the player encounters Edgar Ross. Sometimes only at the end of a story do you realize what it was all really about. He became an author. In a close hug, he apologizes to John for failing to maintain the ranch. At Nekoti Rock, Jack is badly injured by a bear and his mount is killed in the process. After the elk hunting, Jack begins to train with his rifle. Mansion (?) /r/RedDeadRedemption - A subreddit dedicated to Red Dead Redemption & Red Dead Redemption 2, developed by Rockstar Games, the creators behind the Grand Theft Auto series. The games vast and atmospheric world will also provide the foundation for a brand new online multiplayer experience. He wears a blue coat, a red scarf, and beige pants. He has grown taller and is only a few inches shorter than his father. Jack gets a similar haircut like John's, also using the same hat John use's in Red Dead Redemption, and Jack also has scars after trying and failing to hunt a bear to prove he is no longer a small boy. After Jack buried his mother next to his father, he leaves the ranch in order to begin his quest of revenge at Edgar Ross. Jack finds Phillip, Ross' brother, at a small campsite, who tells him that Ross went down the river to hunt duck. Hi! Being the only surviving member of the Marston family, the rest of Jack's life is unknown. Red Dead Redemption's central character, however, is Jack's father,John, an outlaw who eventually tries tosever ties with his criminal past in no small part for the sake of his wife, Abigail, and his son. It is speculated that he was trained under Landon Ricketts, a famous gunslinger, and a friend of his father. Eventually Abigail is beaten by Uncle who is shot by John. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. On a smaller scale of course. It would be completely pointless. For this duel, targeting Edgar in a lethal manner is required. I think that is a good idea. Sometimes, a glitch will occur in which a second shotgun can be seen floating beside Phillip Ross. I think Jack has lived a rancher life and sometime he has gone chasing after bounties. It's the latter that identifiesJohn's birth year as 1873, making him about 38 years old. Jack appears as a supporting character in Undead Nightmare; he is first shown sitting with his mother at the Marston residence, reading a book while discussing swearing with Abigail. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The following morning, Jack is taken by John to help him getting some cattle from MacFarlane's Ranch, from Drewand Bonnie MacFarlane. Uncle calls for John, as he noticed a big group of lawmen and soldiers attack the ranch (unknown to Jack). Red Dead Redemption 2 is an epic tale of life in Americas unforgiving heartland. With a lack of knowledge concerning proper hygiene, it was common for sex workers in the early twentieth century to suffer from a variety of sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis. Jack practicing his aiming skills, with John by his side. He doesn't want to fight for the government. Wanders the remains of the west bounty hunting and or engaging in petty crimes eventually traveling to mexico. One of Jack's most dominant traits was his fast learning: at 4 years old, Jack already possessed basic literacy skills, and he learned the basics of fishing from Arthur Morgan. After the death of his father revenge almost consumed him, although he seemingly abandoned his goals of a proper future, he keeps his anger and check, and remains polite while hunting his father's killer. He turns around and walks away, before deciding to track down Ross, in vengeance for his family. or sadly he likely killed himself from depression. WebBut Dutch also left John for dead during the train robbery and John knows it. Uncle is soon shot by a soldier in the chest, and dying a shortly later, much to Jack's shock. Based on accounts from his wife and his constant cursing during his duck hunt, Edgar Ross appears rather unhappy with his retirement. Now under the player's control, heburies his motherand, free from any obligations, decides to hunt down Ross and kill him, even thoughthe agent's now retired from the Bureau and the murder won't bring anyone back. The death of his family and the decline of the Marston ranch, all happening in a very short amount of time, greatly darkened Jack's personality. Even if he did find out about that, he would've forgotten it by 1914.. so logically there's no way Jack can apply the name "Tacitus killgore" for himself. Nicknames Abigail Marston was an important side character in both of the Red Dead Redemptiongames. But how old is Jack by the end of things, when he takes up his father's mantle? The Marston family moved around for much of Jacks childhood and were temporarily settled in the Yukon soon after the gangs dissolution, to participate in the on-going gold rush there. During most of Jack's childhood, the Marston family moved around for a lot of the time; they were temporarily stationed at Pronghorn Ranch in 1907, although Abigail and Jack left after the former became unhappy with John's recent actions and apparent inability to settle into family life. but thing aren't as dandy as before as the ranch is falling apart and to get by jack turns to money leaders which continue to harass him on a daily basis. Jack Marston was born in 1895 as the first child of the outlaw John Marston and prostitute Abigail Roberts, two members of the Van der Linde gang. Wrote the book "Red Dead." Maybe started again somewhere else (possibly as an outlaw), perhaps tried to become a writer or something. I hope he became a writer or something but I think he'd become a soldier, to be honest. Jack goes on to write The Red Dead Redemption book series, The way you put it a soldier is a murderer then? He ends up becoming very well known through West Elizabeth and parts of New Austin Jack gets into contact with Pronghorn Ranch in 1916. In a later incident, Jack helps his father in killing a wolf pack that threatened the ranch's cattle. If you look into the bookshelfs in GTA5 he wrote a book named "Red Dead" so yeah, guess he became an author. San Luis River Jack Marston and Edgar Ross preparing to duel, Remember My Family - Mission 58 - Red Dead Redemption, Red Dead Redemption - Ending Final Mission 58 - Remember My Family (Xbox One). A Chicago style city in the mid North East, a San Fran in the south West just beyond the edge of the map, and a Florida a little South east of Saint Dennis on the other side of the River. He apparently underwent a number of surgeries to transition to a cat. Hearing the shots, Jack and Abigail rush to the farm, where they find the corpse of a heavily shot John. It is unconfirmed however. Heading to New Austin, to the lake, Jack does not find Ross, but meets Ross' wife, Emily, who tells him that Ross has gone to a hunting trip along with his brother on the Mexican side of the lake. Yeah and just killing Edgar wasnt illegal since it was a duel, He became an outlaw, just like his father, if you play after finishing the game, by some dialogues you can tell he is pretty depressed and he HATES the government and everything that has something to do about it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Note: The events of Undead Nightmare are not considered part of the same canon as Red Dead Redemption. He basically spends a good time after his fathers revenge being a Wild West vigilante. Despite the mutual struggle to understand each other, Jack shared a very close bond with John. He has level 3 dead eye, can fight about as well as John, can hunt the same, and knows how to break horses all the same. Jack and Ross draw their handguns, but Jack is faster and Ross is gunned down by the young duelist. The two find a deceased John in a pool of blood, and Jack comforts his mourning mother. During the ride there and back, Jack inquires his father about his meeting with the MacFarlanes, as well as revealing that it was his first time visiting Hennigan's Stead. I always thought that he was sent to Europe to fight in WWI seeing as how he would be conscription age by the time The US entered the war. Despite only three years passing, Jack appears decidedly older than 19, although this can be chalked up to the stress of his parent's deaths and his rough lifestyle. Given how important Abigail wasto the story of bothRed Dead Redemptiongames, the character deserves more closure. Remember My Family/dialogues In his possession was a letter to his wife. Declining to help Mary will prevent players from being able accept a future mission to help Mary's father.If Red Dead Redemption 2 players want to avoid this mistake, they should agree to help Mary. After watching his father killing and skinning an elk, Jack finds another group, kill one of them, and skins it. Jack reveals that he was treated well by Bronte, being given a box of toys, regular baths, fed spaghetti, and learned the Italian words for horse and slipper. At the player arrival, only Ross's wife is present. After being learned how to herd cattle, Jack returns to Marston's Ranch along with his father. The exact circumstances around the death of John's father are unknown, although John was told by others that he died in a bar fight, possibly the same one where he was blinded. $400+ (from looting Edgar Ross's corpse) I'd like to think he writes "Red Dead Redemption" throughout the game, like Arthur writes his journal. I know this is a really old thread but im replaying the game right now and i love talking about this game! During the night, John and Abigail are confronted by a pale looking Uncle. In 1996 Jack eventually died of heart disease. It would also go well with the game since it's called RDR II, it would effectively make the game a sequel as well as a prequel to the original. TransitoryPronghorn Ranch (temporarily; 1907)Beecher's Hope (1907- c.1914) He starts making a lot of money and becomes very ", "Go ahead! The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jack's final age at just 19. 1914- Jack is now a full grown adult his age is 19, he now has a mustache and a goatee he has taken his father's hat. Family Apparently the events of Undead Nightmare end up in a similar fashion to the original Red Dead Redemption, and John finds his death, being buried at the same location where he was buried in Redemption. Jack Marston He also has access to three law enforcement outfits that cannot be legally obtained by John: the US Army Uniform, the US Marshal Uniform, and the Bureau Uniform. Finally, John and Rufus ride to the top of Nekoti Rock, finding an injured Jack hiding behind a rock. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. John "Jack" Marston Jr.[1] is a recurring character in the Red Dead series, appearing as a central character and the secondary protagonist of Red Dead Redemption, and as a supporting character in Red Dead Redemption 2. Unless Rockstar decides to make it a walking simulator. If I were to really cross my fingers, it would be the same map with 3 new cities. /r/RedDeadMysteries is dedicated to documenting, explaining and uncovering unusual content found within the Red Dead series. Went back to Beecher's Hope and Ranched. But I would like to think that years after killing Ross. He eventually succeeds in killing Ross in a duel, and walks away, with the realization that he's about to become an outlaw, the very thing his parents tried to prevent him from being. Jack sees his father for the first time after being kidnapped by the agency. The epic storyline of Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2spans roughly 15 years, focusing in part on Jack Marston, leading many to wonder about his age. He is now as tall as his father was, and is of a similar build. Jack is later kidnapped by the Braithwaite family and given to Angelo Bronte and is missing from the gang for some time before returning to the gang after they complete a business deal to get him back. After John completed tasks for Abigail and Uncle, he begins to spend time with Jack. If you go to a campfire with people there, they may talk about Edgar being killed by robbers. Rancher (1907 - c. 1911)Outlaw With Ross' death, Jack looks at his gun somberly, realizing he's become an outlaw, the very same life he was always told to avoid. John begins to call for his son at the ranch, but is then told by Uncle about Jack's plans. Affiliations A while later, Jack and Abigail bury John and Uncle on a hill overlooking the ranch. /r/RedDeadRedemption - A subreddit dedicated to Red Dead Redemption & Red Dead Redemption 2, developed by Rockstar Games, the creators behind the Grand Theft Auto series.

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